andrewla
My quibble here is with the house style "Iran-backed" that they attach to every mention of the Houthi's. While it's fine for governments to use that language, I don't think journalists should use it without being very specific to its relevance to the particular subject under discussion. The "Houthis claim major advance in Yemen - what you need to know" article could omit "Iran-backed" in its entirety and lose no information of substance, and amend the last bullet point to say that this is especially relevant given the current US-Iran conflict.
As I type this I feel somewhat vindicated by the update to the page, "Iran does not dictate every Houthi decision - but they appear increasingly aligned", which I think does a good job of clarifying the relationship. It does, however, say "Iran has publicly backed the Houthis during the latest fighting. The geography helps explain why", which is useful factual evidence (since Iranian officials have indeed made public statements in support of the Houthis) but the use of "backed" in this sentence is bad style since that word has been used in exactly this context to have a much deeper meaning than Iran saying "we've got your back bro"
makotech221reply
its a hint to the western audience that they're supposed to be sad about this.
HappyPanaceareply
The western audience doesn't need the hint to dislike it - the curse upon the Jews victory to Islam and shooting random vessels and taking crew hostages (very relevant here) are doing the job just fine.
consumer451reply
The first question should be: who supplies their military equipment?
The next question should be: who benefits?
tptacekreply
Ansar Allah is an operational arm of the IRGC, with devolved autonomy over local matters --- approximately the same relationship an American state has with the federal government. What's your issue with "Iran-backed"? They're explicitly Khomeinist and most definitely are backed by Iran.
I think people read things like "Iran-backed" and immediately frame it in terms of US/Iran conflicts, but GCC/Iran conflicts are the more salient geopolitical frame, at least until like last year.
bhouston
The Houthis created a fake audio of a major Yemeni commander telling his troops to retreat which was subsequently amplified on Twitter/X, telegram, etc.
Apparently, this helped the Houthis advance quickly as the opposition forces were in disarray.
https://x.com/BashaReport/status/2097862335494795579
consumer451reply
Holy shit. This is really interesting. AI used to impersonate, social media to amplify, and that led to a significant tactical defeat?
I don't want to live in interesting times anymore.
electrondoodreply
They also used Claude in a fairly sophisticated way to design their missile guidance system (PDF, search for GTG-87001).
https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/e50be2e51e7695dc4b1366a37a245a...
consumer451reply
Yeah, I saw that. I wonder if there are any other AI labs that are naive (good?) enough to admit this type of thing.
Obviously, it's happening with all decent models.
9cb14c1ec0reply
Makes me want to be a frontier model provider just to get the ring-side seat on what every bad actor in the world is doing.
tencentshillreply
Where did Anthropic get that information to train their model on is a good question to ask as well.
jb3689reply
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” seems like the golden rule we’ve all forgotten
nonsensical_reply
Where men are men and 14-year old girls are FBI agents.
mitxelareply
Yet here we are, believing that the Houthis used fake AI voice to achieve a battlefield victory.
moralestapiareply
Oh wow! Dario and Scam were right!
We should stop everybody else from developing AI, except for both of them which are the most appropriate stewards for this technology.
kryogen1creply
Can't read the Twitter link, but that sounds made up.
Where in the battlefield decision making process are they listening to social media recordings to make combat decisions?
bpodgurskyreply
What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world?
Even in the Russia/Ukraine conflict they use Telegram for basic operations. All chat applications are dual-use.
kryogen1creply
> What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world?
I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray.
> use Telegram for basic operations
an encrypted private communication channel is very different than public social media
londons_explorereply
And most chat apps are either e2e encrypted or HTTPS, both of which are hard to break for third world nations.
But leaks of those messages onto twitter are probably the most valuable info source for what the enemy is doing.
SoftTalkerreply
Third world? Have we forgotten the Pete Hegseth Signal fiasco?
lopsotronicreply
If it was involving a reasonably solid military I would agree.
Sauds, on the other hand . . .
Arodexreply
It gave demoralized soldiers an excuse to flee rather than fight. Nobody was going to question the reprieve offered by an order to retreat, even fake.
mamonster
That's why relying on mercs (which is what both UAE and Saudi chose in Yemen) is a double edged sword. At some point the cash isn't enough of a motivator and they will just run away.
inglor_czreply
We seem to be in need of a mercenary Uber, where individual mercenaries will have their reputation and the potential customers will be able to check it.
zippothrowawayreply
One of the later, not as good, seasons of Westworld has that as an app
MBCookreply
Please stop trying to design the torment nexus.
dgellowreply
I would bet that already exists since a while
jollyllamareply
It's not clear that non-mercenary Arab armies are much better in this respect.
ciconiareply
It's not clear that Western armies are better either, as we've seen time and again in Iran, Afghanistan and Syria.
throwaway85825reply
Politically constrained. It's just the stated goal is impossible given the political RoE.
jollyllamareply
I'm not aware of any mass desertions by Western armies.
watwutreply
What are you talking about here, exactly?
culireply
Most southern Yemenis don't want unification. North and South Yemen were separate countries for decades. When unification first happened there was optimism but South Yemen (which is about 20% of the total population of Yemen) was always hesitant about how little political power they'd have. North Yemen is 80% of the population and, today, almost entirely controlled by the Houthis.
I don't think native Yemeni are motivated enough to fight for unification. That's why all the fighters are mercenaries hired by the UAE or Yemen
tptacekreply
We've seen Sunni majorities in Syria and Lebanon run for generations by oppressive Shia-supremacist regimes, so while I agree that the resistance against Ansar Allah doesn't have a lot of local legitimacy, I think you have to be a little careful about reading legitimacy into the dominant power in Yemen; once a group gets the upper hand, it can be hard to shake them off. There's a whole interesting history to how Yemen got here.
15155reply
Iraq saw massive desertion amongst all non-mercenary ranks during Desert Storm and OIF.
ExoticPearTree
Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
afavourreply
It’s in quotation marks because it’s a quotation. The BBC have not independently verified that the Houthis have taken control of the island, they are reporting what a government source has said.
blitzarreply
They need to start doing this when other "regimes" make wild claims.
wat10000reply
They always have.
It's funny to see the evolution of language. Quotation marks indicated that something was a direct quote. Then people started to use them as a sarcasm indicator. Now we're to the point where people can't even recognize them as indicating a direct quote.
huurtehoogreply
It has nothing to do with verification.
They are simply reporting what sources have said:
Houthis 'take control' of Perim Island - government source
published at 09:00
Houthi rebels have "taken control" of Perim Island in the Bab al-Mandab Strait, according to a source. Earlier, we were reporting that the group had reached the key island.
The AFP news agency also says Houthis have "taken over" Perim Island, also referred to as Mayyun, according to eyewitnesses and a local government official.
"Boats carrying armed Houthi fighters reached Mayyun Island after government forces withdrew from it yesterday," the official tells AFP.
afavourreply
My point about verification is simply that if the BBC had independently verified it’s true then they wouldn’t use the quote in the headline. They’d just say taken control without quote marks, because it wouldn’t be a quote.
vanschelvenreply
Presumably to indicate that the parts in quotes are indeed quoted literally from the source that is mentioned in the same sentence?
nkorenreply
When I moved from the US to the UK, the use of quotation marks in news headlines was something that confused me. In the US, these would be "scare quote", with the quotation marks basically standing in for the words "so-called". In the UK, that is NOT their meaning. The quotation marks mean "we are not ourselves in a position to verify this, but it is the words that a source has told us". Very different meaning -- and once I got used to it, I think the UK use of language in this case is more honest and useful.
tl;dr: two countries, divided by a common language.
gobipreply
This is like this in most of Europe: when in "quotes", it is not the journalist, but the person who said something. For example, Obama said "Yes we can". He did not say yes we can, he said "Yes we can".
It is not about the quotes being verified or unverified. It is about something said by somebody, that you are reporting.
cake-ruskreply
This is precisely what the word quote means!
shawnzreply
Is it really a different meaning? Isn't the implication that they tried, and failed, to independently verify the claim?
petesergeantreply
No, it's a statement of who is making the claim.
cynixreply
Does “so-called” not mean “words that someone has told us”?